Dell Macs

by Chris Howard Jan 04, 2006

This is pure speculation. No inside info, no rumor. I was looking in the tea leaves and they said “Non-Apple Macs”. Oh wow! I’m so clever! Only like the three millionth person to predict that since the Intel announcement. (There now I’ve saved you the trouble of flaming me). But I do have a new idea to throw into the mix, so bear with me.

So hey, let’s look again at those tea leaves. Lets see if there’s any bits of jigsaw been left lying around.

Hardware or software?
It has been argued before whether Apple are a hardware or software company. The answer’s easy of course. Software. It is OS X that defines the Apple computing experience, not the Macs themselves. Look at it this way (and we will get the chance soon): If you ran a different OS on a Mac would you still think Macs were the best computer out there? Vice-versa, if you ran OS X on a x86 noname clone, would it still be almost as good as a real Mac? Certainly, the best combination is a Mac running OS X but we’ve had clones before and some of them stacked up okay - and Apple didn’t fall over.

Apple is without a doubt, first and foremost, a software company. Even the iPod is highly regarded for it’s user interface.

It’s quite possible that if Apple could find a viable alternative to making Macs themselves, they might consider it. And with the impending switch to Intel Macs, the options are greatly enhanced.

Reading the headlines
If Apple were to get someone else to build their Intel Macs, it would firstly be a company with enough clout to get excellent pricing on components, and a company with a long history of building Intel PCs. HP? Dell? These spring to mind. But lets look at a few headlines that have caught my eye recently:

From eWeek: Dell Sales Hit a Snag

For the first time since 2001, Dell missed analyst expectations in both the second and third quarters, forcing it to revamp part of its PC business and lay off about 1,000 employees.

The report lists some things Dell needs to do, including forging more partnerships, although Apple aren’t mentioned as a possible partner. So it’s probable that Dell would consider all possibilities, especially in light of the next headline.

From InfoWorld: Mac OS on a Dell? Dell in favor, Apple opposed

If Apple Computer ever decides to let its Mac OS X operating system outside of its confines, the company can count Dell founder and Chairman Michael Dell as a possible customer.

With the recent news that Apple plans to become a fellow customer of Intel (Profile, Products, Articles) for x86 processors, Dell has expressed interest in selling Mac OS X-based PCs, he said in an e-mail to Fortune published on the magazine’s Web site Thursday.

“If Apple decides to open the Mac OS to others, we would be happy to offer it to our customers,” Dell wrote in the e-mail.

Apple, however, is not keen on striking a deal with the world’s largest PC vendor.

“Mac OS X will only run on Macs. Apple has no plans to sell Mac OS X software to run on PCs,” an Apple spokeswoman said in an e-mail response to questions about Dell

Of course, Apple never reveasl their plans, so their denial is hardly worth the paper it could be printed on.

And from Digital Media Thoughts: Is the Dell/Microsoft Alliance Fracturing?

Recently, two things have made the news where Dell is not toeing the Microsoft line. First, was the announcement that Dell is trying out shipping desktop and notebook PCs in the UK with Firefox as the default browser, instead of IE. Today we have news that Dell is not going to support HD-DVD, despite reported incentives that recently induced HP to do so.

Dell have been supporters of Blu-ray for quite a while but the Firefox experiment does seem to be a toe in the water for looking beyond Microsoft. It also smells of “When your browser screws up the security and causes problems on the computers, the customer blames us, Dell, not you, Microsoft. It’s our tech support who have to take the call.”

So with their ties with Microsoft loosened, might Dell embrace Apple?

Dell Macs?
Now, armed with these tidbits, what do the tea leaves say about the upcoming Intel Macs?

a) Apple will stop selling Macs totally and Dell will sell them instead? Pfft! Nigh on impossible. The Mac stores - online and retail - would look somewhat silly without Macs but still with all the software and accessories. Even though hardware is not Apple’s core, it is dependent on it to maintain their image, credibility and standing in the marketplace.

b) Dell to become the manufacturer of Macs for themselves and Apple to sell? Reasonably possible. Apple sold about 1.2 million computers in it’s last reported quarter, and Dell around 9 million. That’s a lot leverage for Apple. Imagine Mr Corporate IT Manager jumping onto Dell’s website, or opening their brochures, and seeing Macs? Suddenly Macs would be in his line of sight. Dell could give Macs excellent exposure and credibility.

c) It’s time to take your medication Chris and go back to your room with the nice padding.

I know, I know, you’re all saying “c” but I’m saying “b”. I’m speculating that Apple just might outsource the manufacture of Macs to their former rival, Dell plus let them sell them. Unlike the last time though, these won’t be clones and Dell won’t be able to make up their own configuration. Whether you buy a Mac from Apple or a Mac from Dell, they will be the same machine.

Never say never
2005 was meant to be the Year of High Definition Video but turned out instead to be The Year of Anything’s Possible. We saw flash based iPods, a Mac under $500, a multi-button mouse, a video iPod and of course, the Intel switch. All at various times we were led to believe would never happen.

The idea that Apple would team up with Dell may seem far fetched and is pure conjecture, but we live in interesting times, and we should have learned now, to never say never.

Comments

  • If Apple were a software company, how does that explain the Mac Mini, the iSight built-in the iMac, the iPod nano, heck, the original iMac?

    viperteq:”Steve Jobs, when questioned, has admitted that OS X 10.5 will be able to run on non-Apple hardware, but that Apple won’t support it.”

    Oh oh, did I miss something?? When was this?? Please. Is there a news article I can read about this? I must’ve been out of the loop.

    Great Britain (UK) Luke Mildenhall-Ward had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 299
  • Dpes Dell manufacture computers? I was under the impression that they outsource it to Asia, just like Apple and most of their competitors.

    United States innate had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 12
  • I find it hard to believe so many say, “Apple is a business, businesses are there to make money.”
    Well that’s just not true. I own my own business, and I’m sure a few other readers here do too. The fact is, I will put a bit of extra money and hard work towards a little extra end quality to the customer. Even if it costs a bit of money from my own pocket. In fact, everything I do is to make myself, my employees and my customers happy. Money comes into the picture, yes, but secondary to the above. I don’t see how businesses where the boss is passionate about the company product would do otherwise, unless he is completely and totally in it for the money. And if you consider Steve Jobs’ salary at Apple (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=54029), I wouldn’t think he is one of those people.

    Great Britain (UK) Luke Mildenhall-Ward had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 299
  • To reply on-topic: I think that Apple won’t license their operating system AT THIS MOMENT. Why?
    * they make to much profit on their hardware
    * they have a bad experience with it
    * Steve Jobs
    * it’s too early (they need to wait a bit too evaluate the change to Intel)

    Maybe, in a couple of years, they will license it. But S.J. is THE factor. As we’ve seen with the change to Intel, he can decide at any moment to go in another direction.
    What if Apple does license OSX? I think there are two possibilities:
    * All hardware (computers, not the iPods) goes to the OEM’s (Dell, HP,...) and Apple themselves will stop creating their own computers. Still, they will monitor the situation and they will decide what models have the authority to run OSX (specs,...).
    * Apple does give OEM’s the possibility to pre-install OSX on their machines but the computers will need to meet specifications determined by Apple. They will be as expensive as the Apple machines.

    But I hope Apple does not license OSX, I would only buy a non-apple product if it looks as hot as Apple’s (design, etc.).

    Belgium Tomovich had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 16
  • An addition to my second option: Apple will also produce their own hardware. So you could buy Apple hardware from Apple, Dell, HP,…

    Belgium Tomovich had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 16
  • Chris, we get easily distracted by this aspect because it is, well, extremly important. Look back to when Apple licensed their software away. Look at say the Motorola Marco. It ran Newton OS. Yet even looking at the device hurts my hand, while Apple’s Newton hardware can be considered amonst the most ergonomic product lines ever. They are nice to hold, they feel good, they don’t hurt because of sharp edges. Just an example.

    Germany Bad Beaver had this to say on Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 371
  • Tomovich, I agree that it’s unlikely soon, especially because of your last point: “it’s too early (they need to wait a bit to evaluate the change to Intel)”

    In fact, if they wait and the switch proves more successful than hoped, they’ll have Dell banging on their door, which will give Apple the upper hand.

    Australia Chris Howard had this to say on Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 978
  • I agree with this article, it is only a matter of time before Apple Licenses OSX on non-apple machines.  Just like the Car Manufacturers, who often own more than one brand (Honda owns Acura, Mercedes-Benz owns Chrysler).  Apple will always continue to create and have the market for the home user as well as the professional/designer user.  However, Apple could license OS X to dell for the Bussiness sector.  Bussinesses don’t care about the design/aestetics of a computer, they buy them in bulk and ever year or two, they replace them.  Bussinesses are interested in computers that can get the job done, support the latest software needed and best volume discocunts.

    United States Alexander Dimitriyadi had this to say on Jan 09, 2006 Posts: 1
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