Take It With A Grain of Salt

by James R. Stoup Aug 05, 2005

Apple Matters is the third Mac-centric website that I have had the joy to published on. This is a very nice site with fairly intelligent and articulate readers which makes it very fun to post here. However, I have noticed that people who read my articles and comment on them (both here and on other sites that link to my pieces) tend to view me differently. In fact, they fall into two main categories, those that agree with me for the most part and feel I offer a valid point of view and those who think that I am a psychotic-Mac obsessed-raving lunatic-baised-idiotic-fan boy. (cough Bee- cough cough -ble- hack cough spit -brox)

However this trend goes beyond me and extends to quite a few people who write on websites that cater mainly to those who use Apple’s products. Those Apple-minded writers are often times ignored, jeered, insulted, belittled and otherwise not taken seriously. Now before some of you get your panties in a knot let me say this, quite a few of us bring it on ourselves. I, for one, have been raked over the coals for many of my posts and that is due to the fact that I tend to be an arrogant, condescending, self righteous, uncompromising jerk. I am aware that I can come across that way and I plan accordingly.

However several things have happened recently that might cause me to rethink my approach. After a few days of my posting of an article I google it to see who might have linked to it. Unfortunately not everyone who links to, or comments on, my articles leaves a trackback link. Thus quite a bit of useful comments are posted on other sites, and since I want to know what all of those people are saying I have to look around and read their post. After doing that enough I began to see an annoying pattern: people who aren’t fans of Apple have a hard time accepting most of my claims. Is this news? No. Is it annoying? Hell yes.

And here is why it bugs me so much. I have posted an idea that gets ridiculed on other non-Mac sites. Then, when a more general computing site posts the same idea people respond with lots of head nodding and praises. A good example of this was when I posted two Linux articles explaining my views on why Linux fails on the desktop. One of them got picked up by LinuxToday and it was criticized by most everyone on there. And yet two weeks later another Linux site picked up a story that basically said the exact same things. The only difference in the two pieces was that in this case it came from someone “inside” the Linux community and as a result it was praised as being insightful to the problems that Linux faces today. We both made the same point but I was insulted while the other author was lauded. Now, some might argue that the Linux user has more experience with Linux than a Mac user (true) and that his claims would carry more weight with the Linux community as a whole (also true). Or that I came across to harsh and combative (very true), but at some point you would expect that they would at least give me credit for something, wouldn’t you? I may not be a meteorologist but I can tell when it’s raining. So I ask again, why don’t I get the credit? Some credit? Any credit?

Part of the problem I have already mentioned, namely my attitude. Since I am not exactly coming across as a humble writer but instead as an arrogant Mac user I can understand many people’s hesitation to accept my views on blind faith. Of course, there is the additional stigma of being a “Mac User”. I have seen it many times online and encountered it aplenty at my job. People think that because you use a Mac you must be working on a “Fisher Price Computer”. Thus you don’t really know how a “real” computer works. Using a Mac means you don’t have any choices in software and of course whatever you run it on is going to be quite expensive. Now, all of that is a steaming pile of horse pucky but it does accurately reflect many of the outdated stereotypes that still exist. Another hurdle to cross is Microsoft. Just about every Apple writer that takes anything more than a lukewarm approach to criticizing anything Microsoft is cut down for being “out of touch” with the “real world”.

So, how can your average Apple writer be taken seriously on other tech sites not known for their friendliness to those who “think different”? Well, I suppose the biggest thing to do would be to drop (most) of the attitude and tone down the condescending tone we all too often find ourselves using. Maybe that would keep people from instantly disregarding whatever point we are trying to make. Of course there is still a mountain of ignorance when it comes to Apple but maybe if we try hard over these next few years we can do something about that. It is a very exciting time to be an Apple user and so now is the time to get the word out and try to inform others of all the great things Apple is doing. I suppose we will just have to do it calmly and hope for the best.

Comments

  • It’s time like these when you call me a Mac-drooling-fanatical-sycophant that I wonder if I have these conversations with you because of your sparkling wit or because I am some kind of masochist?

    Oh well, I guess it just doesn’t matter. Say Beeb, do you think we will ever get along? Or are we doomed to forever be on the opposite side of the fence? Eternally entangled in a fight to the bitter end with neither side giving in and both claiming victory?

    And by the way I just want you to know that when I call you a scum-sucking big-headed wussy-boy windows appologist I do it with the utmost kindness.

    : )

    Oh, I am looking for someone to fill the position of arch nemisis, would you be interested?

    United States James R. Stoup had this to say on Aug 09, 2005 Posts: 122
  • Say Beeb, do you think we will ever get along? Or are we doomed to forever be on the opposite side of the fence?

    We’d only be on opposite side of the fence if I was a drooling fanatical sycophant for Microsoft.  Unfortunately, I’m not.  Such a person would never profess to liking both platforms about the same, which I do.

    Now, it’s quite possible that you’re SOOOO crazily blinded by Apple-zealotry that my relatively moderate position of liking both platforms (and by inference, liking Windows at all) puts me at practically the opposite end of the spectrum from you, but I think that hardly fits the role of arch-nemesis.  Sorry.

    United States Beeblebrox had this to say on Aug 09, 2005 Posts: 2220
  • Beeb,

    Would you pleeeeaaaassssse be my arch nemisis? It will give my articles so much more flavor.

    And maybe you aren’t on the other side of the fence, maybe you are just sitting on the fence. And as a result your balls are being crushed depriving your brain of much need blood. I suppose that would account for those crazy ideas you keep spouting.

    Now, if you will excuse me I am going to use my fuzzy blanket to wipe the drool off my face, ta ta.

    United States James R. Stoup had this to say on Aug 09, 2005 Posts: 122
  • James: As one who is new here, I confess I really like your writing style.  FWIW, I have yet to find a article written by you, I disagree with.

    We all know every Winblows user’s secret desire is to be a Mac addict.  Yeah the biz people will mention how difficult it would be to switch, while the home surfer will use the excuse “Mac’s are too expensive”.  Screw ‘em.  Although I’ve found both success and failure in transforming switchers, again I write, I am proud to be one of the chosen few.

    Keep up the great work.  I really like this site.  If we ever meet in a bar, the first rounds on me.

    United States dascribe had this to say on Dec 08, 2005 Posts: 5
  • I’m a Mac user.

    What is a virus?

    United States SirGeorge53 had this to say on Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 27
  • It’s interesting to see how the comments to this article quickly degenerated into a “mac vs pc” argument. I don’t think that was the point of Mr. Stoup’s article--rather he was describing an issue of credibility and acceptance.

    I enjoy reading the articles on this site because they are thoughtful, well-informed, and interesting. I don’t own a Mac, but I’m interested in different OSs anyway. I come here to learn.

    A big issue I see with Mac-centric sites is that people who use and enjoy Macs tend to want everyone to share their joy. However, the reality is that people are free to choose, and if my choice differs from yours, the last thing I want to hear is that I am somehow less intelligent or competent. There IS an attitude problem--but it’s not just with Mac fanatics. It’s a problem with fanatics of all kinds.

    See Wikipedia’s definition of proselytism: “The English language word proselytism… generally describes attempts to convert a person from one point of view to another, usually in a religious context.”

    Proselytism can apply to situations other than religion. Trying to convert another to your own point of view is often a tricky proposition. We’re often tolerant of diferent viewpoints from friends and co-workers, but it’s annoying as hell to have a complete stranger tell us that we’re dopes because we [drive a SUV] [eat meat] [use a PC] [don’t worship Jesus]--take your pick.

    I’m always interested in hearing intelligent, lively arguments. I have no tolerance for arrogant assholes who impugn my intelligence based on my choice of computing platform. Lighten up, folks--it’s just a freakin’ machine. Macs break, PCs crash, the world is dangerous and unpredictable place. Get over it.

    I think it’s possible to rise above the muck, and I’d encourage all good writers (like Mr. Stoup) to keep at it, no matter what flames may arise. Keep it professional, keep it courteous, and ignore the trolls and wackos. They will always be with us, and it’s best not to give them too much attention.

    This is a great site. Keep up the good work!

    United States Adrienne Adams had this to say on Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 6
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