Why Is Vista So Resource Hungry?

by James R. Stoup Jun 16, 2006

I have followed the Longhorn/Vista train wreck for some time now and one thing has always bothered me. Why is Vista so resource intensive? When some of the early specs came out a year or so ago it was revealed that most of the computers currently on the market wouldn’t be able to run Vista with all of the bells and whistles attached. Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd? Because, if you recall, you can run OS X (with all of its cool visual effects and nifty features turned on) on Macs with a G4 processor that is several years old.

Vista’s Aero glass interface has often been compared to the look of OS X. Now, assume for a moment that both Windows and Mac both do the same basic things eye candy-wise. (Things like shading, transparent windows, ripple or wave effects and similar effects) If Apple can accomplish these things with hardware that is obsolete, why then does Microsoft recomend users buy computers that haven’t even been made yet?

Just how much hardware are you going to need to run Vista? Because every estimate I have seen seems to be higher than the last. This of course begs the question of “how much is the cheapest Vista ready computer going to cost?” This assumes that you are shopping for a computer once Vista comes out . . . whenever the hell that is . . . and not right now. Because right now, it could be a little pricey. Not out of the budget of everyone, but enough to make you really think about how bad you need that upgrade.

And this really brings me to the point of my article. How cheap can Dell (and the rest of the PC makers for that matter) sell a computer when Vista finally arrives? Go over to Dell’s website and you will see that (as of 6/15/06) you can buy a Dimension B110 (it just rolls off the tongue doesn’t it?) for a meager $299. It’s specs are as follows:

Intel Celeron 2.53 GHz
256MB
80GB
Integrated graphics (they wouldn’t tell me it’s specs but I can only assume they are bad)

Now, I bring this up because if you go to Microsoft’s “Get Ready For Vista” page you will find that Vista’s system requirements (for the Aero glass effects, that is) are as follows:

1 Ghz processor
1 GB RAM
40 GB HDD
128 MB VRAM

And lets assume for the moment that Microsoft isn’t lying and these really are the minimum requirements needed for the Aero experience. Clearly Dell’s entry level PCs aren’t powerful enough to cut it. In fact, you have to go up to their Dimension 510 model (love the name, its so, catchy don’t you think?) before you are even given the option of buying a graphics card that will meet your needs. And that computer cost $650, not including the extra RAM you must buy. Which, in that case, brings the price to around $700. No where near the $299 entry level PC we started with.

Read any review you want about Vista and they all say the same thing, the new Aero interface looks really great. And so, if your average consumer decides to upgrade, he is most definately going to want to see and use this wonderful new interface with all its transparent goodness. So, he probably isn’t going to be in the market for a $299 Dell box-O-crap. More likely he will be interested in a $700+ computer. Now, this could be bad for Dell because while they own the low end of the market (with its razor thin margins) the competition gets much fiercer at the higher end.

If you have $400 to spend on a computer you are almost certainly looking at Dell, however, if you have $1,500 to spend on a computer, Dell isn’t your automatic first choice. Thus, I can only predict that Vista, whenever it comes out, will be good for Dell’s bottom line (they will sell more computers and make more money) but they will loose market share because the low end of the market will slide while other players in the field begin stealing some of the high end customers. This bodes well for Apple in any case. So I say bring on Vista and let the fun begin.

Comments

  • I agree… I’m running OSX.4.6 w/ a 700MHz G4.... and only 384 MB ram....  Vista’s going to have to match that (but, of course, witth an Intel chip) or better it for all the work to be forth it - that is, if Vista ever is officially finished.

    United States stephencolon had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 15
  • My AlPB 1.67 is all I’m using for MY development these days. Yes, I still have my Inspiron 8500, with 1.5Gb of ram and a 100Gb HD. But am I going to go out and spend another $250.00 just to upgrade the video on it to get “entry-level” Aero ? Puh-leeze.

    United States marcelol had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 4
  • Since the article misspells it four times ...

    It’s Aero, pronounced somewhat like arrow.  Not Areo, pronounced like in REO Speedwagon. smile

    United States sjk had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 112
  • sjk,

    You are the spellling mastre.  Thnaks.

    United States James R. Stoup had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 122
  • Well, considering I run Panther on a 1999 Wallstreet Powerbook… that’s a tall order to match.

    Vista’s got no chance with those who want to keep their current set-ups and just upgrade. You’ll have to be buying the system with Vista pre-installed and specs guaranteed to get it going with no fuss.

    Great Britain (UK) great_high_wolf had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 5
  • Of course OS X demonstrates its technical superiority, as you say, by the fact that it can achieve equivalently challenging eye candy with much less able hardware.

    However I do think you overstate the problem. Our PC with a 2.62 GHz Athlon64 and positively neolithic Radeon 9550 w/ 256 MB RAM runs it absolutely fine. The stated factor seems to be dedicated video memory, which isn’t really a problem - old gen video cards with enough oodles of memory can be bought very cheaply from places like ebuyer.

    Great Britain (UK) Benji had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 927
  • Sorry just to clarify that with regard to great high wolf’s comment that there’s “no chance with those who want to keep their current set-ups and just upgrade”:
    I’ve installed the current vista beta on our pc and aero glass works really well. Actually, I have to say I’m impressed smile

    Everyone should read daringfireball’s latest post coz it’s totally wicked and much to learn, we all have.

    Great Britain (UK) Benji had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 927
  • err… typo: “they will loose market share”

    Should be “lose” not “loose’

    If something is t(oo) l(oo)se is has two: “oo”.

    If something g(o)t l(o)st there’s only one: “o”

    (or at least that’s how my 8th grade grammar teacher tried to get us to remember the difference… this may be the most common spelling mistake on the web, although its/it’s is close behind which is easy to avoid if you always remember that the ‘ in “it’s” is an “i")

    TjL
    former English Major
    Once and Future Nerd

    United States luomat had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 10
  • I’d like to see people choose to install a linux distribution rather than chuck their still good computers because they won’t be the newest thing anymore.  I truly believe that in many ways, computers have reached a point where they can do what you want them to without much of a headache, so long as you’re not playing around with 3d games or programs that need the added power (says the guy with the power mac with 256 vram). 

    If you’re not playing games, why do you need the latest and greatest hardware and os?  Right, because companies like Microsoft and Apple only support the latest version of their hardware.  Heck, even Firefox won’t support Win98 in the next update.

    My point is simply that not everyone needs to be driving around in the newest ferrari or mustang.  Linux would be a secure way to utilize this old hardware (people still use winNT and the like over legacy programs, although the OS isn’t updated anymore as far as I know, leaving it open to bugs if it were to get past the firewall) allow those who want it to drive around in tanks. 

    But that being said, it’s not as if people wouldn’t be able to buy a 400 dollar dell and install Vista on it (or have it come pre-installed on the drive, like most people get their computers) and have it run fine without all the fancy foo foo.  If that all of a sudden means that Windows will be able to logically manage multiple open windows, XP users will be happy regardless of how it stands up to OS X.

    Canada Chicken2nite had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 79
  • This bodes well for Apple in any case. So I say bring on Vista and let the fun begin.

    ‘Cause if there’s anything Mac fans are good at it, it’s prognosticating which new products (according to Apple fans, all of them) will lead to all kinds of new gains in market share for Apple (so far, none of them).

    I have a three year old PC with a two year old video card, and I passed the Vista-ready test, including Aero, with no problems.  And in any case, Aero is not exactly a requirement to run Vista.  When I got my Mac Mini, it did not support, and still doesn’t support, that fancy wave effect when you drop a new widgets into Dashboard.  And if I’m not mistaken, there were other examples of interface eyecandy not supported by older G4’s.  So what?

    Second, as I’m sure James will be happy to testify, Vista offers few immediate incentives for the sub-$500 PC user to upgrade, particularly right out of the gate.  Vista will take awhile to mature, and by then every PC manufacturer will be installing Vista on all new PCs, from the sub-$500 market and up.

    United States Beeblebrox had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 2186
  • Furthermore, however taken i am just at the moment with aero glass, I fully expect to see people with fully capable computers actually turning it <b>off</i> eventually for the slight performance gain in ordinary use.

    Great Britain (UK) Benji had this to say on Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 927
  • i have a two year old PC with nvidia video card. it meets the requirements for vista. anyway, i wouldt turn off all the stuff that vista’s graphics has to offer, even though i needed more system resources. thos companies like dell should start making “designed for Microsoft Vista” computers.

    United States nana had this to say on Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 63
  • “Right, because companies like Microsoft and Apple only support the latest version of their hardware.”

    Uhhh…

    10.4.6 seems to run fine on hardware more than 5 years old, long ago “obsolete.” Some of this stuff predates OS X.

    400 MHz G4 PowerMac (384M)
    533 MHz G4 PowerMac (384M)
    500 MHz G3 iBook (640M)

    - gws

    United States gwschreyer had this to say on Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 22
  • I really liked your article, but you forgot one thing, you never answered your title question.

    Why Is Vista So Resource Hungry?

    Canada Dudeguy had this to say on Jun 19, 2006 Posts: 20
  • lol - quite often you have to take the article titles here as rhetorical.

    Great Britain (UK) Benji had this to say on Jun 19, 2006 Posts: 927
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