First off, these people sound like Frankenstein! “Apple destroy UNIX spirit” LOL
Why do you feel the need to argue? You have your opinion. They have theirs.

It’s not anyone’s duty to defend Apple. If you dig it. Then just enjoy your Apple experience.

(IMHO)

Yeah, it’s probably best to just avoid getting into an argument. I usually would, just there was someone asking for advice on buying a Mac and now this idiot came and started posting.

Meh… he’s just a brainwashed cretin. I won’t bother. I’ll just PM the guy who is asking for a Mac instead.

Thanks. I was kinda hoping you guys would be like, “wtf, someone dissin on our Apple?? C’mon boyz, let’s go show em who’s boss. kthnx.”
But oh well, advice on ignoring them is good too

-Luke

Beeblebrox - Apr 09, 2006 05:45pm

Luke Mildenhall-Ward - Apr 08, 2006 05:56pm

Meh… he’s just a brainwashed cretin. I won’t bother.

Um, aren’t you the guy who said recently that Apple was the ONLY company right now that was innovating, or something similarly stupid.

What’s the difference between your dumbass comment and this guy’s?

“the guy”? what, like, Neo or something?
No, it wasn’t me. You’ve probably confused me for someone else. But thanks for the input. If I had said that, then yes, I would be just as stupid as this guy.

Beeblebrox - Apr 09, 2006 08:47pm

Luke Mildenhall-Ward - Apr 09, 2006 08:26pm

No, it wasn’t me. You’ve probably confused me for someone else. But thanks for the input. If I had said that, then yes, I would be just as stupid as this guy.

I’m pretty sure it was you.  I’ll try and track down the exact quote.

UPDATE: Here’s the comment, “Apple are the only ones who have realized you do have to compromise on features for a better experience. “

As a bonus, I also found this, “I can’t believe people still expect Apple to let their Macs run Windows…” --By Luke Mildenhall-Ward on 2006 01 10

You can post whichever of my comments you want. None of them are gonna say, “Apple are the only company who innovate.” That top quote is not even remotely close to the context of innovation.

C’mon Beeblobrox, don’t think you can fool anybody by posting things I’ve said which are completely different to your accusation

Although nice find on that bottom comment! I forgot I said that…

Beeblebrox - Apr 09, 2006 11:29pm

Apple is the ONLY company that realizes you have to compromise features for a better experience?  Oooooookay.

But you’re removing my comment from the context from that discussion entirely. I was speaking in reference to software design of iLife applications.

Now is that debatable, yes. But the facts in my comment are still truth: “Apple compromise features” - is that comparative to this other statement “Microsoft innovate, not Apple”? No. It’s not.

Beeb, I only mean this as advice. You have ways of making your arguments sound convincing, but I don’t think myself, at least, will be able to take you seriously until your points of evidence are more substantial.
YES, I know, and before you come back with, “but this is exactly how all ‘macbot’s’ argue too” think to yourself: is arguing on that same level really helping anyone? If you argued from a higher standpoint, I think you might stand a chance at beginning to convince the people who matter.

Best,
-Luke

Beeblebrox - Apr 10, 2006 02:49am

That’s not what you said, Luke, and you know it.  You said:

“Apple is THE ONLY COMPANY that realizes you have to compromise features for a better experience.”

The context of that is pretty straight-forward.  Apple “is the only company.”

So I’m the one ‘re-writing history’ now, huh? You wanna see my actual comment? OK, thanks:

Apple are the only ones who have realized you do have to compromise on features for a better experience.

And here’s what you are claiming I said:

Apple is THE ONLY COMPANY that realizes you have to compromise features for a better experience

I actually didn’t even mention “company” in my original comment. This is you trying to take it out of context again. Even by stooping to the level of changing what I said and claiming it’s what I “actually” said.

Beeb, my newfound respect for you is becoming quickly short-lived with this ‘gutter’ side to you I’m seeing. It’s quite disappointing that you’re trying to turn my words around into something else just to cover your original screw-up of mistaking someone else’s comment for one of mine in your first post.

I really thought you would have been bigger than this. You could’ve just admitted you were wrong from the start; heck, do it now and I still won’t hold it against you. But please don’t keep ridiculously trying to peddle anything from these comments of mine you’re using as evidence. You might as well bring in one of my shoes and somehow twist that against me. I bet you could as well.

I don’t think this is the right place to continue this discussion because you’ve taken my original thread off-topic. Please PM me if you want to do more arguing. Thank you.

-Luke

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