Microsoft confirms plan to take on Apple’s iPod

 
 
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Microsoft confirms plan to take on Apple’s iPod
Seattle (Reuters) Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:19pm ET
By Dai Wakabayashi

Microsoft Corp. said on Friday it plans to release a new music and entertainment player and accompanying software under the “Zune” brand this year, in a belated attempt to challenge the dominance of Apple Computer Inc.’s iPod player.

The announcement comes after weeks of rumors and speculation about such an offering. Microsoft has already touted the products to record companies.

“Under the Zune brand, we will deliver a family of hardware and software products, the first of which will be available this year,” said Chris Stephenson, general manager of market for entertainment and services at Microsoft, in an statement. “We see a great opportunity to bring together technology and community to allow consumers to explore and discover music together.”

The world’s largest software maker faces an uphill climb in closing the gap on Apple’s iPod media player and iTunes Music Store, the runaway leaders in their respective areas.

The iPod holds more than half of the digital media player market, according to research company NPD, while iTunes accounts for over 70 percent of U.S. digital music sales. In the United States, the iPod has more than 75 percent of the digital music player market, according to NPD.

“Creating a lifestyle device, Microsoft is clearly going to face a battle here,” said Michael Gartenberg, research director at JupiterResearch. “It’s going to be hard for them to create the same level of cachet that Apple has with the iPod.”

Music industry sources told Reuters earlier this month that Microsoft disclosed plans to be in the market before Christmas with a media player that will allow users to download videos and music wirelessly.

It will also try to replicate Apple’s simple approach to providing an integrated, seamless ecosystem for digital media, seen as the key to its success with iPod/iTunes, the sources said.

“What Apple has done really successfully is they’ve controlled all the elements of the solution,” said Gartner analyst Mike McGuire. “But having all of those elements does not guarantee success—just look at Sony.”

Sony Corp. introduced a music service as well as its own software and player, which has to date failed to dent Apple’s share of online music sales or sales of the iPod.

Microsoft did not disclose pricing for the new media player or whether it would be willing to take losses on the hardware to make money from the sale of music, video and possibly games. This is the strategy it adopted with Xbox game console.

“The iPod is going to be a tough nut to crack, but you probably could have said the same thing with Sony and the PlayStation and it has done a good job positioning the Xbox,” said Toan Tran, analyst at Morningstar.

Microsoft sources said Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s entertainment and devices division, is working with J Allard, vice president of its Xbox team, on the digital media player/software project.

Allard’s involvement is seen as significant because he is one of the few executives at Microsoft with experience in launching a consumer electronic device from scratch with the X-Box gaming system. His involvement suggests that gaming might be part of the media player.

A Microsoft spokesman was unavailable for comment.

Analysts also said Microsoft will be very aggressive marketing the product as it did with the Xbox. “It definitely is a big bet,” said Morningstar’s Tran. “Microsoft definitely has its work cut out for it, but the company has massive financial resources and it’s very persistent.”

(Additional reporting by Ken Li in New York and Duncan Martell in San Francisco)

If it ships “on time” like Vista, we may see it in 2010 and to play songs you’ll have to press six buttons simultaneously and then hold the player upside-down while pressing three more buttons.  wink

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I’m not sure why Mac-fanatics keep comparing this to Windows instead of the Xbox, which is the more appropriate comparison.  (Okay, obviously I know WHY they do it, but I’m being rhetorical).

The Xbox is one of the biggest selling consoles; the Xbox 360 was, notably, the first next-gen console to hit the market.  And the Xb0x team is the one involved with this new mp3 player, which I, as one who enjoys competition in the marketplace, look forward to seeing what they have to offer.

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It’s a long standing track record that if it comes out of Microsoft it’s 99% guaranteed to be rubbish - even the Xbox is arguably the worst of the three gaming consoles (of course there are some people who prefer it). Another well-established Microsoft track record is stealing / copying or buying out everyone else’s ideas, which cloning the iPod and iTunes store is just yet more proof of.

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Buzz Bumble - Jul 24, 2006 12:34am

It’s a long standing track record that if it comes out of Microsoft it’s 99% guaranteed to be rubbish

That’s stupid.

- even the Xbox is arguably the worst of the three gaming consoles (of course there are some people who prefer it).

That’s a really tight argument you got there, Buzz.  Some argue it’s rubbish but some prefer it.  And THEREFORE, it’s rubbish.  Okay.

Another well-established Microsoft track record is stealing / copying or buying out everyone else’s ideas, which cloning the iPod and iTunes store is just yet more proof of.

If making an mp3 player is “cloning the iPod”, then the iPod itself is stolen.  Apple didn’t invent the mp3 player and don’t have a monopoly on the concept.  And unless you’ve seen and used the actual MS products, then your assertion is absolute bullshit.

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It will also try to replicate Apple’s simple approach to providing an integrated, seamless ecosystem for digital media

Hmmm ... sounds like they’re planning to simply clone it to me. 

I added that some people like the Xbox purposely because some twit would jump up and say “but I like it”. Simply because some people like it, or even the majority of people, doesn’t mean it’s actually any good ... just look at Windoze. That’s why we use Macs.

But I’m not wasting any time trying to debate this - it’s not the point of the topic.

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I had a reply here but decided to delete it.  It was unnecessarily harsh (although it did make lots of sense).  My apologies.

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The difference between the xbox/games-consol and the ipod/mp3-player is the games consol had so much needed improvement. The Mp3 player market doesn’t need much more. Games need to look more realistic, handle more graphics and have good game play. We all look at a game and think nice graphics but could be better or hold the controller and think I’d like a different shape. But with the Ipod; could the music be clearer no, less button pushes to hear music no, look better no. Ok maybe a higher quality screen (if you do actually watch movies on you Ipod) but I wouldn’t swap mp3-players for a better screen I don’t use. and smaller/lighter but this is a technology limitation; and with smaller you get harder to use (although apple did well with the nano).

Microsoft cracked the games consol market by making a better product but in a market, where the best in it wasn’t good enough. In the mp3 player market the best (the Ipod) is good enough. Microsoft need to make a player the size of a nano, with the capacity of an Ipod, that looks as good and as easy to use; and hope apple doesn’t get there first/at the same time!

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Are you suggesting that innovation in the portable music player begins and ends with the CURRENT version of the iPod?  That it can’t be improved in any significant way beyond storage capacity and price?

Ugh.

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There are not as many advances in mp3 players as games consoles. Mp3 players need to be thinner but I want a screen to see what is on it so they can’t get much smaller. Games consoles have far more to go, I want graphics like a TV before I will be close to happy.

Microsoft brought something new to the games-consol market. Microsoft will struggle to bring something new, that people want to the mp3-player market.

If Microsoft produce an Mp3 player that is easy to use, the size of a credit card with the same capacity, good screen and looks good they will have brought something new to the market (and I will buy it) BUT [my point is] if Microsoft can do it so can apple.

Any new improvement Microsoft can do, apple will more than likely do it first.

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Graham - Jul 24, 2006 07:00pm

if Microsoft can do it so can apple.

Which is a bit like saying that “if Microsoft can do it, so can Sony with the Playstation.” But that didn’t happen.  In fact, MS beat PS3 out the door with a next-gen console that’s pretty danged awesome.  And I’m sure there were those who also wondered what more could be done with the controller before Nintendo basically re-invented it.

Apple, despite what the deranged kool-aid drinkers would have you believe, does not have exclusive rights to innovation.  And it’s entirely possible for another company to release a portable music player that exceeds what the iPod has to offer.  I can personally think of dozens of ways to improve the current model of the portable music player and I’m not investing the time or the money to sit around and think these things up.

Will that company be Microsoft?  I don’t know.  But every company mentioned in this thread has its successes and failures.  And in MS’s case, one of its successes is comparable to this market and the same design team is responsible for its development.

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No the markets are not comparable. The games-consol-market and the Mp3-player-market are not analogous.

Games consoles you buy the best and most recent, so you can get the latest games and the most realistic game play.

Mp3 players you buy one that holds the amount of music you want (thus the success of the shuffle, nano (because not all people want 40gigs of music with them.)), looks good and is small enough to carry.

Games consoles all players want to play the most recent and up-to-date games.

release dates are more important to the games consol market because if people buy the xbox they wont buy the ps3 (people like to play the same as their friends), until the xbox is getting old. People buy the first latest (sic) games consol almost as soon as it comes out and stay with it until the next-gen range comes out. People do not rush out to get the most recent Mp3-player, they get it when they want it. People do rush out and get the first next-gen games consol.

There are so many differences in the markets between Mp3 players and Games consols that success in one does not guarantee success in the other.

(PS what are the 12 improvements you can think of for the Mp3 player)