Will the Newton Ever Come Back?

by James R. Stoup Sep 09, 2005

Why don’t we take a trip back down memory lane for a moment shall we? Many of us will remember back to our first kiss and how sweet a kiss it was! Some of us might go back to when big hair was still in style or when Michael Jackson wasn’t crazy. Or maybe you are remembering when man first walked on the moon. Ok, stop, we have gone too far back. Fast forward a little till you get to, say, the mid 90’s. Are we all there? Great! And what do we remember about the 90’s? Power Rangers, Bill Clinton, Garth Brooks and of course the Apple Newton.

The link above will take you to a page that gives a nice history of Apple’s attempt a PDA/mini-computer. Over all it was a very cool, if under appreciated, device. Unfortunately it was before its time. But look how things have changed! PDAs did catch on, and they did incorporate many of the features found in the original Newton. However PDA sales have begun to decline in the last few years as laptops become lighter and cheaper. Some pundits have suggested that PDAs, like Tablet PCs, will ultimately only serve a niche market and never really make it to the mainstream. And they may be right, after a fashion. But I prefer to think more optimistically, especially given the recent news from Phillips.

Apparently Phillips has created a very cool technology called Polymer Vision. You can check out the website and read up on the details for yourself but it basically boils down to this: Phillips has created a flexible screen that can roll up when not in use. Doesn’t that just blow your mind? It’s kind of like modern day parchment or your very own electronic scroll.

So, what if Apple were to take this technology and incorporate it into its own version of the PDA, an updated Newton if you will. Only this time around this new device will have a slew of cutting edge features. The current crop of iPods functions quite well with either small screens or no screens at all in the case of the shuffle. Either way the devices have proven quite capable with the current limitations of technology. Now expanding that concept to include playing movies and . . . well we have a slight problem.

To make a screen large enough to play movies adequately you need a fairly large device (large when compared to an iPod I mean). There really hasn’t been a way to get around this up until now. Suddenly the game has changed because the rules have changed, and that is very exciting. Imagine then if Apple were to use this new roll up screen technology to create a general purpose, handheld computer that plays songs, plays movies, displays digital books and runs a scaled down version of OS X. A super Newton with iPod-like capabilities. Would you pay for something like that? Throw in wireless networking to connect to your personal computer,a wireless modem to connect to the net and GPS tracking tied in with, say, Google Maps and you have a very powerful, hand held media device that could be the next “big thing”.

Of course I haven’t mentioned handwriting technology at all yet, and with good reason. I have used several different types of PDAs and never really liked the whole idea of translating my pen marks into text or reading my hand writing. I didn’t think it was that impressive then and I have no reason to think it will wow me in the future. So, I want Apple to forego that technology entirely. I want them to come up with some other way for me to interact with their new device. Just like they used the click wheel to raise the bar for MP3 player control I want something equally creative to arrive for this new toy.

In short, I want Apple to take this industry and completely remake it by introducing a powerful, easy to use, must-have device that everyone will want. Hey, they did it with the Mac, they did it with the iPod, why not go for the hat trick?

Comments

  • I’ve owned all the Newtons as well as a Pocket PC. With the 2100 and the PPC I get about one typo per two paragraphs (mind you, I have quite neat handwriting), so I’d definately insist on pen input.

    Back when I used the Newtons I was a PC user, and the PC-side software really stunk; I think if there was a new Newton tomorrow - and the PC implimentation of the software were handled as well as iTunes is now, then they’d have a hit on their hands.

    If we’re also considering such out there things as roller blind displays then I’d like to submit that it’s time that the hand held didn’t synch with all our data, rather - it IS our data.

    There’s more on this at:
    http://andrewsmactips.cjb.cc/07.htm

    Regards,
    Andrew Burke

    Andrew Burke had this to say on Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 3
  • So James, been reading Newtontalk, have you? *g*

    As Andrew said, pen input is essential. Of course it would be nice if Apple invented some technology that would also let me take notes without a pen and without speaking (since I’m trying to note down what somebody else just said) or excessive waving of my extremities. Ideas? See, a pen is a good thing, still.

    Bad Beaver had this to say on Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 371
  • looks like a type of OLED display. I believe these will be the next level of display tech, to replace our LED’s in the future.

    I just learned a few hours ago that Sony just released an MP3 player with an OLED display:
    http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable/20gb-walkman-man-without-a-face-124384.php

    makken had this to say on Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 21
  • Opps, I meant LCD, not LED

    makken had this to say on Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 21
  • I was a happy Newton owner but there are two main reasons the odds are mighty, mighty slim.

    a) the PDA market is marginalized - a PDA is an add-on feature now, not a separate device. Whether that’s added to a phone, a IM device, a SMS device or some holgraphic implant, PDA is a feature set now not a separate device. That’s 90% of why we will not see a Newton again.

    b) Steve Jobs still considers it part of the John Sculley legacy and rightly or wrongly, as brilliant as a CEO and founder he is, he can hold a grudge and keep it dead. If you factor in A) that the PDA is slopping downward, there’s no compelling reason for Jobs/Apple to revive the Newton either personally nor financially. That’s 9.95%

    So, there is a .05% chance it could happen but Steve Jobs would have to leave Apple for the chances to improve to 10%.

    jbelkin had this to say on Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 41
  • I think the idea of a Newton is not now as a pda but as a pc replacement or multimedia hub. Imagine a multimedia newton that stores all your movies, music, and works as remote that streams that data to your new wifi enabled lcd tv.  At the same time you could browse your email and the web on that same device. I would definately buy something like that.

    jedda had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 5
  • I find that the most enticing thing about the switch to intel is not the effect it will have on current designs, but the freedom that apple’s designers will have to break their current limits.

    sdevore had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 1
  • The Newton was the very first PDA, but it came out way before its time.  It will always hold a special place in my heart.

    jakeisbill had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 3
  • I loved the Newton myself…I was in a test program for the Sony MagicLink which worked quite well, but I liked the Newton better.

    Ruminator had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 2
  • Really the Newtons decendent is the HP t1100 tablet. Ok its bigger, but alot of the technologies (including MS Tablet) are linked back to the Newtons team. Have a go with it and a Newton side by side and its amazingly similar…although Tablet actually works hehe. The Newton was a nice toy, but the market wasn’t really ready at the time, nor the expense of it. I still have my Newton and fire it up occassionly to play around with. Its a good laugh, and its recognition is always a huge element of amusement for people.

    Nyadach had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 29
  • I somehow doubt that Apple would ever make make a Newton or iPod/vPod that rolls up in the next few years. It just seems like something Apple wouldn’t do. Hinged, maybe. I think, if Apple starts using Phillips’ polymer displays, the result will just be thinner electronics, not roll-up.

    S2K had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 5
  • A roll up screen isn’t really practical in a useable device and how would you write on it?

    Personally if someone came out with an A5/Moleskine sized device that let me write notes/articles, draw quick diagram’s, add calendar entries, send & get email, surf the web and participate in wifi networks—I would shell out $1000 easily. An electronic notebook/Moleskine/sketchpad that lets me run widgets to do things like control my other WiFi devices would be near nirvana for me.  Something that recognises when it gets home and dumps all the changes to the local network and picks up updates without my intervention… droool….

    I’ve got boxes of notebooks and diaries that are dead data and a pain to use—dead data costs me too much time —imagine no more dead data?

    cp21yos had this to say on Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 1
  • do you really think there’s room for an updated version of the newton in this market?

    Robyn had this to say on Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 1
  • No place for it these days. But wheeling out the original (first gen without any OS upgrades) out again is so amusing. It always gets a laugh when you show off its urmm “impressive” recognition skills hehe.

    Nyadach had this to say on Sep 20, 2005 Posts: 29
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