[i]A future controlled by web apps is something Apple can't compete with by going low end or licensing OS X.[/i]
I think your conclusion is completely off the mark, Chris. Nothing you're arguing about really changes the dynamic. The "pro" crowd that wants to use Macs already does.
What you're missing is that the thin-client crowd, or those who don't need bother with power and processors, will move away from Macs. Why pay $1200 for an iMac when all you need to do is now built into your browser?
So I don't think they gain any market share on the high-end and potentially lose a huge base on the low-end given your thin-client argument.
So the long-held conclusion remains the same: Apple should produce a low-end computer.
[i]Android is going to be soooo interesting.[/i]
I hope beyond hope that they won't screw the pooch on this one. I'd love to get a device as easy to use as the iPhone but that wasn't locked up tighter than Tom Thumb's butt.
Not only is it a computer, it's the computer of Steve Jobs's dreams! It's a computer in which he has absolute control over what you can buy and what you can install on your "computer." And if he changes his mind on an app he approved, he can kill it with the flip of a switch. What more could you ask for?
“we screwed up a great product with bad pr. Vista didn’t deserve it and we didn’t treat the consumers with enough respect”
I'd ditch the last line. But that's not too bad.
The MS heyday was probably Windows 2000. Solid, reliable, and pretty much ran everything. XP was 2000 with 98 window dressing. Also solid.
Personally, I like Vista. And after my iMac kept spontaneously rebooting twice a day, I was pretty close to hurling it out a window and switching back to my PC full time.
I'm not sure that an apology is in order. It's not the product, it was the roll out. And how or why do you apologize for bad PR?
"For me, streaming worked so well I didn’t bother hacking it, but that had been my original plan."
So does the AppleTV NOT sync (copy files to the drive) and simply streams files to it from your iTunes? If that's the case, then there's no reason at all for me to buy one. That's disappointing. Or can you set it up to do one or the other?
"But your right, it’s a half-baked product. It needs a bunch of things, like:
- a larger hard drive: I can only get around 60 movies on my available 140GB."
I'm with ronjamin pretty much across the board.
I wouldn't say it's a stupid product, but it's certainly overpriced for what it does.
I'm not the least bit interested in buying DRM-ridden crap from iTunes, but I am interested in a good media extender. My Xbox360 is filling in that role for now, and it works great, but it only streams instead of syncs, which makes it vulnerable to wi-fi interference, like when we run our microwave while trying to watch a movie. Really, that's the only selling point for me with the AppleTV, but it's a pretty good one.
I'd really like to see user-extensible storage. That would go a long way to making it worth a purchase for me. Also, adding the Netflix streaming, which probably isn't going to happen.
"You see, as much as I like the iPhone, it just isn't for me. I don't want a smart phone."
Then I must say, I'm confused about your complaints. I have a low-end flip phone. I open it, dial a phone number, and hit send. I'm not sure how one makes this simpler or easier to do. And they all pretty much do this.
In fact, speed dial is even easier. I hold down "3" to call my wife. I don't even have to hit send. One button to call the person I call the most.
Now, what makes the iPhone is the interface, sure, but it's the interface to all that other stuff - the camera, the apps, the web browsing - all the stuff you say you're not interested in.
For me, I don't have the iPhone because it's still too expensive. While my phone sucks at web browsing and takes really crappy pictures (although it does shoot video, which the iPhone doesn't), it was SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper and didn't require a $30/mo data plan.
I have actually created an Automator script to fill in a stupidly missing function in OS X. I used it to be able to "move" files from one drive to another without having to copy and then delete the file.
"Another thing people forget is the difference in price between iWork and Office. Both do more or less the same thing but Office is 4 or 5 times more expensive."
This comparison seems to inadvertantly suggest that Apple's prices on hardware are wholly unjustified. Or are you saying that even though Office seems to do more or less the same thing, that really it does a LOT more that justifies the otherwise disproportionate price difference?
"You pay more, but it comes with customer service."
My 18-month old motherboard in my iMac had to be replaced recently and it cost $800. Anyone want to give me the apologist bullshit for why an Intel MB in this day and age costs $800? Was it the awesome design that I never saw or the incredible user experience of shelling out $800 to fix it? Because I'm just not seeing it.
"Then they will either have to content themselves with their current size (not a bad proposition if you ask me) or they are going to have to look into expanding in to new areas."
And herein lies with my big problem with how our stock market works. Because share holders want growth since they make more money off of stock increases than they do dividends, Apple CAN'T just be content with their current size. If they stop growing, then investors bail, Apple loses market share, and then get bought out or are forced to merge with some other giant conglomerate. So a perfectly solid and profitable company can't just be fine with regular profits. They must expand and get into businesses they normally wouldn't even bother with.
I would never pay $100 for .mac, and I'm now sure that I will never pay $100 for MobileMe. It'd be frustrating enough if a free service like Gmail lost my e-mails. It's unforgivable if a paid service does it.
"MS is being beaten senseless by MULTIPLE little and no-so-little companies. With desktop OS, it’s Apple. With servers, it’s the various *NIXen out there. On the web for search and marketing, Google."
I think you'd have to define getting beaten senseless. With the desktop OS, the only place Apple beats MS is in positive media coverage. Apple isn't even beating HP senseless in the PC hardware market. They do quite well, and I'm glad for the competition, but MS is still a de facto monopoly.
On the server and search side, I'd agree, although they've never really been competitive in search that I'm aware of, even before Google.
Frankly, I'd love a little more competition all around. I don't want either MS or Apple to dominate the OS market. And I'd sure love a nice mp3 player that competes with the iPod.
No Low End in Apple's Future: Thanks Google Chrome
iPhone - A Great Computer
iPhone - A Great Computer
Vista means having to say you're sorry
Vista means having to say you're sorry
Is Apple TV the Stupidest Apple Product Ever?
Is Apple TV the Stupidest Apple Product Ever?
Surprising Absolutely No One, Cell Phones Are Still Poorly Designed
Renaming Files and Folders the Automator Way
Renaming Files and Folders the Automator Way
Apple Pricing? Quit your Bitching!
Apple Pricing? Quit your Bitching!
Apple's Future Prospects
MobileMe Pushes Back Everything
Microsoft Getting Beaten Up by Unmentionable Smaller Company